N2 — outside your level filter
たところで
たところでta tokoro deN2neutral
Same meaning19
but; even though
- どころかfar from; not just X but even Yattaches at
- がbut; and — a difference stated, or a soft preambleattaches at
- 反面on the other side of it — one thing, two opposite sidesattaches at
- 一方でwhile; on the other hand — two sides of the same thingattaches at
- からといってjust because X, that doesn't mean Y — the conclusion is refusedattaches at
- けどbut; though — the everyday spoken way to say butattaches at
- くせにeven though; and yet — a jab at someone who should know betterattaches at
- もののalthough — the fact stands, and it changes nothing that followsattaches at
- ながらもthough; even while — a restrained, one-person concessionattaches at
- にせよeven if; whether — grants a case in writing, and changes nothingattaches at
- にしてもeven granting; even if it's the case that — one case among severalattaches at
- に対してtoward; against; in response to N — also sets N against something elseattaches at
- のにeven though; despite; and yetattaches at
- てもeven if; even though; no matterattaches at
- と言ってもhaving said that; though I say X — walks back a claim madeattaches at
- としてもeven supposing; even if we take it that — concedes a set-up hypothesisattaches at
- とはいえthat said; granted — the point is conceded, then turned againstattaches at
- ところがhowever; to my surprise — an unexpected turn against what precededattaches at
- ともeven if; no matter how — literary, on the 〜おう／〜よう form or the く formattaches at
All examples3
even if — supposes an action and dismisses it as pointless
今さら謝ったところで、彼女の気持ちは戻らない。
imasara ayamatta tokoro de, kanojo no kimochi wa modoranai.
Her feelings won't come back even if you were to apologize at this point. neutral
いくら文句を言ったとこで、決まったことは変わらないよ。
ikura monku o itta toko de, kimatta koto wa kawaranai yo.
However much you complain, what's been decided isn't going to change. casual
今の体制のまま人員を増やしたところで、根本的な解決にはなりません。
ima no taisei no mama jin'in o fuyashita tokoro de, konponteki na kaiketsu ni wa narimasen.
Even if we increase headcount under the present structure, it will not amount to a fundamental solution. formal
How it's formed1
All forms1
たとこでtatokodecontraction
味わったとこで
speech clips ところ to とこ, as it does in ところだった — 今さら言ったとこで. Conversation and messaging only.
Notes
also mean "at the point X was done"; only futility marks this one.