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in total; as a group of — bundles a quantity into one unit

昨日きのう、三人さんにんでカラオケ行いってきたよ。

kinou, sannin de karaoke itte kita yo.

The three of us went to karaoke yesterday. casual

お会計かいけい、全部ぜんぶで三千円さんぜんえんになります。

o kaikei, zenbu de sanzen'en ni narimasu.

That comes to three thousand yen in total. neutral

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as a group of — the participants act as one unit, even 一人ひとりで

  1. 昨日きのう、三人さんにんでカラオケ行いってきたよ。

    kinou, sannin de karaoke itte kita yo.

    The three of us went to karaoke yesterday. casual

  2. 引ひっ越こしの片付かたづけは一人ひとりでやりました。

    hikkoshi no katazuke wa hitori de yarimashita.

    I did the unpacking after the move on my own. neutral

in total — the separate amounts added up and stated as one figure

  1. お会計かいけい、全部ぜんぶで三千円さんぜんえんになります。

    o kaikei, zenbu de sanzen'en ni narimasu.

    That comes to three thousand yen in total. neutral

  2. こちらの資料しりょうは全部ぜんぶで十じゅっページございます。

    kochira no shiryou wa zenbu de juppeeji gozaimasu.

    These materials run to ten pages in all. formal

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