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てまで details

write + (and…) + going so far as to — at a price the speaker judges too high

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going so far as to — at a price the speaker judges too high

meaning: going so far as to write

家族かぞくとの時間じかん削っけずっまではたらきたくはない。

kazoku to no jikan o kezutte made hatarakitaku wa nai.

I don't want to work going so far as to cut into my time with my family. neutral

徹夜てつやまでして仕上しあげたのに、結局けっきょくボツになっちゃった。

tetsuya made shite shiageta noni, kekkyoku botsu ni natchatta.

I pulled an all-nighter to get it finished and in the end it got scrapped. casual

  • て-form
  • noun

Examples

going so far as to — the lengths gone to are named, and treated as excessive

家族かぞくとの時間じかんけずってまではたらきたくはない。

kazoku to no jikan o kezuttemade hatarakitaku wa nai.

I don't want to work going so far as to cut into my time with my family. neutral

徹夜てつやまでして仕上しあげたのに、結局けっきょくボツになっちゃった。

tetsuya made shite shiageta noni, kekkyoku botsu ni natchatta.

I pulled an all-nighter to get it finished and in the end it got scrapped. casual

他社たしゃ信用しんようきずつけてまで契約けいやくるつもりはございません。

tasha no shin'you o kizutsukete made keiyaku o toru tsumori wa gozaimasen.

We have no intention of winning a contract at the cost of damaging another company's good name. formal

Formation

Notes

A noun takes までして (徹夜てつやまでして). The lengths gone to are the
speaker's to judge, so てまで normally leads into a denial, a criticism, or a
question rather than into approval.

Related patterns

Similar

  • Both name an extreme means, and the main clause decides which one you want — てでも declares the speaker will pay the price (借金しゃっきんしてでもう), while てまで judges the price too high and needs a negative or critical main clause, so 借金しゃっきんしてまでいたくない is idiomatic where ×借金しゃっきんしてまでいたい is not.

  • Both reject an extreme course, from opposite ends — くらいなら names a preferred alternative and takes it instead (行列ぎょうれつならぶくらいならかえる), while てまで offers no alternative at all and simply denies the goal was worth the cost (行列ぎょうれつならんでまでべたくない).

  • Both mark a cost brushed aside, and they name opposite halves of it — てまで names the extreme ACT undertaken (借金しゃっきんしてまでう), もかまわず the OBSTACLE ignored (人目ひとめもかまわずく); てまで is reliably disapproving, while もかまわず only demands a verdict and can just as well admire (危険きけんもかまわずんだ).

Lookalikes

  • Same まで, different attachment and opposite verdicts — までもない follows the dictionary form and says the action is UNNECESSARY (うまでもない), while てまで follows the て-form and says someone actually went that far, at a cost the speaker disapproves of.

Same meaning

even if I have to; going so far as to

PatternAttaches to
てでも