と同じ details
the same as — states identity with a named standard
この色は見本と同じです。
kono iro wa mihontoonajidesu.
This colour is the same as the sample. neutral
それ、私のと同じやつだ。
sore, watashi no to onaji yatsu da.
That's the same one as mine. casual
- alternant
- formal
- polite
- past
- negative
Examples
the same as N — the thing under discussion is identical to the standard marked by と
この色は見本と同じです。
kono iro wa mihontoonajidesu.
This colour is the same as the sample. neutral
それ、私のと同じやつだ。
sore, watashi no to onaji yatsu da.
That's the same one as mine. casual
会場は昨年と同じ市民ホールでございます。
kaijou wa sakunen to onaji shimin hooru de gozaimasu.
The venue is the same civic hall as last year. formal
Formation
{N}と同じattaches to noun
Variant notes
- と同じくらい — the degree reading — equal on a scale rather than identical — 兄と同じくらい背が高い.
- と同様 — the written-formal swap for notices and reports, but it takes の before a noun where 同じ takes none — 前回と同様の手順で進めます.
Notes
×同じな大学 — the one place it does not behave like the
na-adjectives it otherwise resembles.
Related patterns
Similar
Two ends of one comparison — より reports a difference and needs a gradable predicate after it (兄より背が高い), while と同じ is itself the predicate and admits no comparative; と同じくらい is the shape that bridges them.
のほうが picks a winner and presupposes the two options differ; と同じ denies there is anything to pick, which is why どちらも前回と同じです closes a どちらがいいですか question instead of answering it.
Lookalikes
One kanji apart, both opening with と — と同じ equates two THINGS and ends a clause as its predicate, while と同時に pins two EVENTS to one moment and can only be adverbial, so 出発と同じ names a thing where 出発と同時に names a time.